Forum: PC tournaments

@Dawid, @Domin, with EW, it is worth remembering that the repley will open with a jump of the same distance only when we open it with the same wind. So the wind range is probably out of the question for organizational reasons (unless everyone would write in the description what wind they jumped with, only when checking x jumps it is an additional activity, for each jump finding it on the list of jumps and checking the description and setting it in the editor) What would work and be the least time-consuming is to provide a rigid value, e.g. 3.8 or 4.1 m/s, with the indication that the wind throughout the jump (inrun and flight) should be constant. The latest EW allows you to increase the wind during a jump without alt'tabbing, but when checking, you would have to increase the wind at exactly the same moments for the distance to match. And even small differences in the distance given on the rep website and what we would get by checking the rep could result from raises at bad moments, but equally from the fact that someone during the jump also raised the wind for a moment beyond the established value. It is also worth remembering that the higher the wind value, the more difficult it is to maintain a position in flight - so giving values ​​like 38/42 m/s (these are optimal values for most hills for their maximum performance, the end of the jump is a fall from a very high height vertically down, at values higher than 50 the jumper very often flies in the wrong direction for part of the jump) would have tragic consequences for people jumping without a slowdown, at 99% of slowdown it is extremely difficult to keep the jumper in a good position for at least 80% of the jump, without slowdown the wind will soon exceed the momentum and it will put the jumper into reverse gear. Optimum is 3.8 m/s in my opinion. This is a wind whose taming is not a big challenge, and allows you to fly on most hills in the vicinity of the old WRs (on hills where this value would give much weaker jumps than the old WRs, the value of 4.1/4.3 could be given), so the results would be to some extent "rational" and everyone would then have equal opportunities and only skill would decide.

Well, I don't use specific seeds, but like I already wrote on mediamond, I can see which variability value I currently have. So I can understand if a wind I currently jump on only looks promising or if it is indeed promising because it is acutally a high variability. But I still search manually. For bigger hills I tend to look for something around 0,40, for the smaller hills I look for as high as I can get, but usually I'll use anything above 0,47...

@Zeppelin, I was just needed to make it clear for everyone, to prevent situation like "Darek say, but we don't have confirmation". Ech, DSJ2 on PC is so complicated in 2023... For me is not qualifing for AM because You are not abble to find strongest winds if You dont run game on pure DOS, , but also is much eazier then normal wind serching so i have no idea is it qualifing for after EZW as well, have no idea, this think brings only headache... @Dawid, Your webside, Your decision 😅 Btw, what You think about jumping tournament with static wind editor set for example for 3.8/4.1? Then conditions will be same for every body(not including people Who dont use slowdown, because it also give something)

@Dawid Delete my tournament please.

@Domin, ok, it's good that you created it, because I was already losing faith that someone normal would add a tournament (what gets to accept is mainly 'regret and despair' 😂) and there started a further discussion about the PC version and tournaments for it, that's why I'm moving it to the forum. @Darek, "after EZW" is an unknown mish mash anyway, so I guess everything will go there. A new category will be created for today's times, i.e. on the 3.8 wind editor, as you write, and that's how I would see "official" World Cup-type tournaments. I don't see any other solution, but something should be done - probably more people play on PC, because it's much more enjoyable and you can play on additional hills.

@Darek To be fair, DSJ on PC was always complicated. Far example my reading the variability is only reading the memory. So basically that was also possible in 2000. We don't and we'll never know what knowledge people had back then. It�39;s possible some jumpers already had that knowledge back then. For example Oystein had some crazy winds. Maybe he was lucky and patient, maybe he had a way of reading the variability back then. Just food for thought ;)

@Zeppelin, we was checking in 2021 if i remember good, seeds from all old WR's. Moust was between 3.3 and 3.6 and only one was above 0.4 jumped by Domin WR's. ± I guess i was writing about it - that old WRs are also compromised, in that conversation about seeds, that was deleted from forum 🙂 Moust "funny" thing is that, long long time before EZW was showed to world, one person jump top5 on some hills, with exaclly same widn like person from 25 pleace or something like that. Frame to frame same wind🤣 and that was one of top players.....so yeee, beliving no one was cheeting in old datys, is like beliving in Santa Claus🤷‍♂️ I dont jump on PC from 2 , almoust 3 years. And i will never jump again. Good we have also Mobile and is free from all this bbullshit🙂 Maybe with wind editor some day. Now PC version is still joker to me🤷‍♂️

Incorrect, Kzk Oystein's jump (old WR), 0,43 variability...

@Zeppelin, oh, so i was remembering wrong, thx for correction.👍

I will check all the variety one day from ols wrs - nopatch and with patch